The Secret to Going VIRAL as an Artist (ft. Vivid Joyce)

Alright, welcome everybody to the Creators Table

podcast. I am your host Tyler Watson and today

I'm joined with Vivid Joyce. Vivid Joyce is a

self -taught traditional artist and an Adobe

certified graphic designer. She has a wide range

of styles, aesthetics, and medians from painting

and illustration to digital design. And art for

her is about changing perspectives and inspiring

others through creativity and expression. She's

also open to commissions and loves to create

just about anything. How are you doing today?

I'm good. How are you? Not bad. Not bad at all.

Why don't you give us a little bit of a description

about what you do? So I am a self -taught. illustrator

and artist and I do have a little bit of background

in graphic design but mainly I focus on traditional

art and I kind of have a goofy natural style.

I like to draw silly things and also like landscapes

and portraits and things that revolve around

nature but I pretty much am able to draw anything.

I can just study it and draw it. From a picture

or real life or anything. Gotcha. So you you

kind of have You're not kind of set with certain

boundaries of Not bound. Yeah, but you will draw

but what you can't draw Yeah, I feel like I can

really do anything not trying to be like Narcissistic

or anything, but yeah. No, you're just like it's

like the hair tuck. I can like paint literally

anything Yeah, not like that Okay, okay, I got

that so what's like When did you first start?

drawing and kind of what is the What is the status

of your? Your drawing to like the public like

your art to the public basically So I have submitted

art a few times in the Quinlan art show in Gainesville

for the Hall County schools and I really started

drawing ever since I was a baby. I've just been

drawing on random things. But what really sparked

it was art class in elementary school. And then

it got more serious in middle school because

the art teacher, she was honestly not the best,

but she did open up a lot of opportunities for

me. And then that's when I realized that art

was actually something I could pursue in the

future. So I just started focusing on that. And

yeah, of course. Yes. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

I never I took like art like a couple times in

like elementary school and stuff like that. And

I was like, I was very indifferent to it. You

know, like, yeah, I didn't like the art, like

the classes where they were just like, OK, you

have to make this. Yeah, I hated that. Yeah.

That was that was not fun. I had a couple art

classes where you got to just basically you had

different tools and like you had to make something,

but not but basically around this like like you

had to make like a stamp, but your design was

up to you, you know. Yeah. So it gave you some

sort of guidance and you weren't just kind of

coming like trying to come up with something

completely random, you know, that you kind of.

Yeah, that definitely helped me. Yeah, of course.

Where do you think you adapted your style? I

guess would you say it's like just kind of from

like shows you watched or something you just

saw and liked, you know? Well, I definitely like

like alternative aesthetics and I'm a huge cat

lover. So I kind of mix them together and then

I discovered all these other animals and I just

basically I just draw what I like. Pinterest

I have a whole board of just these random cool

-looking pictures and I just paint them or draw

them just for fun. I got you. I got you. Do you

have like a piece of your artwork? That's like

your I don't I still have yet to come up with

the example But like your your favorite piece

like the one like somebody's like, oh, what's

your favorite? Like what's the one you tell them?

Well, there is one that I feel like would be

my soon -to -be favorite, but I just haven't

really been working on it But it's to me and

it's a it's a completely original idea It's this

36 by 36 inch canvas of my cats painted as gargoyles

I've yet to finish it, but I just I love it so

much. It looks so cute your cats paint. How many

cats do you have? only two Okay, your cat's painted

as gargoyles. That's kind of awesome. Yeah. I

like to think of my cat as a little gremlin.

For some reason he likes to, he'll jump on me

and this is the strangest thing, but he will

jump on me and then begin to like suckle on my

shirt and it's weird. Aww. Yeah. That's kind

of sad. It is very sad. He doesn't do it as much

anymore, but when he was like, when we first

got him, when he was really young and small,

he would do that. And I would be like, I am not

your mother. Like, get off me. Not actually.

Yeah. Okay. And you said you do graphic design

and you do traditional art. Do you do more? Are

your drawings kind of smaller or do you do them

on like a big canvas? Um, usually I just draw

in my sketchbook, but I've been trying to branch

out to canvases and I'm actually working on another

cat painting. It's like, you know, there's um,

the alien cat memes. Yeah. They're all green.

I'm trying to paint one of those. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. No, that'd be, that'd be awesome. You should

draw the, uh, I don't even know what the cat's

name is, but it's like the brain rot cat or whatever.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, the one

that spins around? Yeah, that one, that one.

Okay, yeah. I need to do that. You should, you

should. Have you thought about doing animations

or anything like that? I have, and I do some

art on Procreate on my iPad, but I'm honestly

not the best. I'm better on Illustrator and Photoshop,

not really Procreate, but I'm learning, so. Interesting.

This is kind of OK. So I've had a lot of artists

on here. I've had a mix of artists. I have some

artists who who focus more on paintings and kind

of kind of more drawing certain pieces and kind

of not replicating, but I guess kind of, I don't

know. It's diff. It's kind of funny because I'm

I'm thinking about it because I have certain

people who do animations who've been on the podcast.

And when I've talked to them, it sounds like

they were more honestly involved with the storytelling

aspect and like the character and like the lore

and they were like I want to expand on that and

I want to like bring this character to life and

it feels like with people who are more painting

oriented they're they're more like got an idea

and they want to like kind of fully encapsulate

that idea onto a canvas yeah I agree with that

I was I guess that kind of makes me wonder like

Was do you think that it's because like I wonder

there's there's a clear difference there and

I don't want to like be like Be rude, I guess

a storytelling because I guess where the the

Impact of storytelling comes from the story,

but then the impact of a painting Isn't the story

it's the Kind of the expression and how it's

painted Yeah, that definitely has a large part

in it Personally, I want to mix those two. I

want to mix storytelling and the expression together.

And I've been wanting to create original characters,

and I think I have a few years ago. But I'm more

into like finished pieces and not just random

sketches. So yeah, trying to learn how to like,

not be a perfectionist, basically. Yeah. Yeah,

no, of course. You should try... Do you know

what animatics are? I learned what this was,

like recently. No. So I guess they're like...

They're like animations, but instead of it kind

of being clear frame by frame, it's kind of more...

It's like almost storyboard -esque. Layout to

where it's just certain kind of like a comic

book almost but yeah put against some sort of

recording or sound or music and Like that's typically

I think what you're seeing a lot of like shorts

and reels and tick tock. Yeah, I Yeah, I make

sense. Yeah, you should you should think about

trying that that'd be That'd be pretty cool.

Yeah, you know just maybe What is that? No, I've

been thinking about that. There's this one story

about this character called Bunny, I think, and

it's like very retro style. I'm not sure the

artist's name, but I've just stuff like that.

I feel like would be so cool to do. Yeah, that

would be cool. Yeah, I freaking love that type

of content. I like I like looking. I follow a

lot of artists, but I don't do a lot of art.

And I like, I don't know, I like. I will reach

out to artists all the time about being onto

the podcast because I really, really like it.

I don't know why. I would honestly say I'm more

of a person who's been more interested in music

my whole life, but I do really like art a lot.

That type of art, like painting and drawing.

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into the episode. Thank you. It definitely was

impacted by shows and movies, but like I have

literally a probably over 500 list of shows and

movies that I love. So it's just hard to name

them off the bat because I just I love film as

well. But someone directly who inspired me was

my grandmother because she was an artist. I don't.

believe she ever like really went public with

them. She just painted mostly landscapes with

oil and acrylic. And I just I wanted to do something

like that when I was older. So she definitely

inspired me. I used to think about it. It's like

you're kind of given our generation is given

an opportunity where I guess a lot of art like

that, like when you draw for like yourself at

home back in the day, like obviously there are

ways to like. make your art public, but not to

the extent that we can do it now. You know, like

now you can post it on social media. And sure,

you're not going to get like a million views

on each post. But, you know, you're going to

get a lot of views from just being just a lot

more than you would just like in person, you

know. Yeah. Online definitely helps a lot. I

think it's like I'm not sure the word for it,

like the Betting I guess for selling art now

since I mean pop -ups. I've been wanting to do

that, but I don't really have like a Large number

of products all at once right now. Yeah, so I

feel like it'd be kind of awkward. So yeah, that's

that's true. You could go to You know, I I guess

I wonder you know, I've been thinking of the

best ways you could do that or different ways

you could Kind of to make it where you're still

able to like make art, but then also You know

find a way to where people might Like it's where

you can sell it in a different way. I guess I

Think I always think of I'm always kind of thinking

of different stuff like that Did you what were

like your I'm just curious what were like your

top if you had to just you know This doesn't

have to be set in stone or like You know you

can't change your answer, but if you're gonna

say right now the top three movies you said or

shows That you enjoy just three that you enjoyed

no particular order. What three would you say?

This is a really hard question I I know I know

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, okay um, I definitely grew

up loving Marvel and Star Wars, but Certain movies

just aren't like Good anymore. Like I feel like

the newer ones. They just kind of lost the spark.

Yeah, I agree Yeah, but Another movie. I really

love the claymation of mr. Fantastic Fox I just

I love the voice acting and how they position

all the characters. I just feel like it's so

cute Yeah, but another movie I love is La La

Land. I just I love Ryan Gosling and his acting

And just like the lighting of the movie, I feel

like is really cool. You know, this is the second

podcast in a row where somebody said one of their

favorite movies was La La Land. Really? Yeah.

Maybe I need to. Wow. Maybe that's a sign. Do

you? I had Reagan Ellis on before this one. I

don't know if you know who that is, but no, I

don't. I'll Google it. Yes, I had her on and

she said that one of her favorite movies was

La La Land and I have never seen La La Land.

You should watch it. It's kind of sad, but like

it's really sweet Maybe I'll watch it tonight

or something cuz I literally like yeah, literally.

She told me that I was like I that's a movie

I've thought about watching I just haven't watched

it yet. When did that come out? Like um, it's

definitely been some time It feels pretty new

to me because I'm just I don't know like I really

I feel like 2014 was literally yesterday Like

I don't know how to explain it like Guardians

of the Galaxy. That's another movie I like that

I'm pretty sure the first one came out in 2014

and it just feels like it came out last year

or something. I agree. Yeah, I Okay, I have this

I have this weird. There's a lot of weird things

that I do So I'm not gonna say I have this one

thing but one of them in particular is My brain

for some reason has started operating on this

function of like It's old if it came out before

some movie. So for me, a movie... To me, the

switch in era of movies, and this is so random,

happened when Frozen came out. Okay, yeah, I

agree with that 100 % Thank you because I literally

I've said this and my friends are like why frozen

like that's so random And I'm not saying all

movies that came out out after frozen were bad

Yeah, but for one company in particular Disney

it is very apparent that that was like their

last And like not say they haven't had good movies

that came out after frozen again, but like Frozen

was like that one movie that was just huge like

massive for Disney and There hasn't been one

that's matched up to that sense. I Think it's

also Yeah, I think it's also the animation style

like the movie Snow White is so Not in a bad

way. It's so old and I love the old styles. They're

beautiful, but I feel like Especially the eyes

of the new characters like they're so big and

animated and it just I think it just kind of

had a turning point in all of Disney I like the

movie, but it was like one of the most Films

that had the most merchandise and everything

like everything had frozen on it like oh my gosh

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was a phenomenon like I don't Yes, the last movie

I can remember besides maybe some of the Star

Wars and Avengers movies that came out That was

like that felt like and it like how it had so

much hype behind it I'm gonna take that back

actually when the FNAF movie came out Oh, yeah,

oh my gosh that was consult that was very condensed

type When I really thought about it because it

was really just our generation and the generation

before but you know Yeah, I feel like it only

made sense to our generation. I feel like Younger

or older people just wouldn't get it. So yeah,

I Talked about this with somebody earlier. I

don't remember when this was but I was talking

to them about going to see the FNAF movie and

it was such a culture shock because I went and

I'm thinking, oh man, this movie is going to

be like a bunch of people like our age is going

to be crazy because you're going to have all

these people who just like, you know, played

the game when they were younger and, you know,

kind of watch follow, like follow along the game,

you know, see how it kind of developed. And then

you get to the movie theater and everybody there

is like under 15 or like 14. And I was like,

what is going on? You know, like there's actual

children here, you know, which, you know, I guess

one thing you kept saying is like, oh, why would

why would these children be watching playing

FNAF? And then I realized I was a child when

I played FNAF. So, you know, yeah, it just it's

so weird to me, like not in a bad way. It's just

there was so many FNAF obsessed kids when I was

little and it was just I didn't understand it,

and I was never a FNAF kid. And I'd never watched

the movie immediately, but I watched it a few

months ago, and it was not what I was expecting.

So I thought it was going to be freaking terrifying.

Yeah, that was OK. Respectfully, it was not that

scary at all. I mean, there were scenes. Yeah.

There were a few scenes that, like, jump scared

me a little, but it wasn't like hereditary scary.

So. oh they literally they literally made a fort

i forgot that happened yeah yeah oh my gosh that

speaks volumes to how scary it was yeah just

the whole car scene oh my god yeah i hate that

it was one of those movies where it was like

there were certain aspects of it that were really

really cool and like oh i love this and then

you got to some aspects and you're like Like

what is this? You know? Yeah, I was like what?

The hell is happening right now. It felt like

the corporate aspects of the movie getting thrown.

Yeah, you know like the the the So many scenes

like that The fact that markiplier wasn't in

it was kind of sad, but matpat being in it was

cool Yeah, yeah, yeah um I guess to kind of get

it back on track a little bit What has what has

like a What has art kind of been for you over

the years? Like has it been? What has it meant

to you basically and kind of how has it impacted

you? So it's definitely been something positive

The only really negative thing I can think about

is the occasional art block and like motivation

spikes and how it goes up and down But it's definitely

been a creative outlet for me And I had no idea

where I would be without it. Yeah. Probably obsessing

over some other hobby, but it's really helped

me. Doing this podcast has made me realize there's

a lot of people who think a lot like me. Yeah.

Like you ever just like wake up and you see somebody

like make something and you're like, I want to

do that. Like I want to write a book. I have

nothing to write about. I have no story. Like

I mean, I'm sure you could find something to

write about but I have no business writing a

book I don't even like reading books that much

then I want to write a book You know, yeah, I

actually want to also I I want to do so many

things It's like honestly overwhelming sometimes

because there's so much I want to do And that's

what I think is like cool with like like schools

like scad is that you get to do it in a way?

Where you're not all on your own, I guess trying

to do these things Yeah, like I recently joined

like the film club in my school and I was like

this is actually really kind of cool because

I don't have to You know find a bunch of people

to make a movie with I don't have to buy all

this equipment I can just enjoy What film is

from a bit of a setback? Extance I guess you

know what I mean. I can enjoy and not necessarily

go all -in Yeah, I agree with that so much. I

took a few video production classes. And mainly

what we did, it was in middle school. But my

teacher was awesome. And mainly what we did was

record like commercials for like the school news

and stuff. Yeah, and then there was one project

where I was going to do a claymation with little

like, you know, those fuzzy worms on the string.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and so that part really isn't

Clay, so I guess you would just call it stop

animation. Yeah But it definitely helped me like

I don't really use cameras as much but I definitely

Am experienced now. So that's good. That's very

good. Yeah, maybe you know III my dream is to

like have all the people I've had on work on

a project together Like I dream for that to happen,

you know? Yeah, that'd be awesome. That'd be

I would really like at some point I'm really

thinking about getting all the guests that I've

had on together who are local, of course, and

just kind of, I don't know, we're gonna do something.

Like make a zine or I think it's called a zine.

What is a zine? I want to say Zine, but I don't

think it's, no, I think it's a zine. It's like

a little art book, basically. And it's like supposed

to be easy to print out and to get the message

out. Like people do it for like activist reasons

or just like having a creative little art book

around. Like it's like something to pass out.

Like everybody has a little piece of art in it.

Yeah. Like, um, that's a great idea. Know what

it was called. Exactly. It had something to do

with the Miles Morales and that kind of spider

universe But there was a bunch of artists that

did like I think it was from the first movie

they did frames Like they drew with their own

styles and put it into one video and I just thought

that was so cool You totally do that. That would

be awesome. I love to have that I would be on

board with like sponsoring that stuff like that.

Yeah. Yeah That'd be, we'll talk about that more

later. Yeah. But, yeah, no, absolutely. I think

it's, there's a certain type of person that I'm

realizing is a lot more common, you know, by

doing this. And it's been, it's really cool to

kind of, you know, talk with you guys and kind

of see, like, is there a certain, you know, besides,

obviously, art and film, is there another like,

what would you say is one other place that you're

thinking about pursuing some sort of project

in? Whether this can be somewhat serious level

or like slightly, doesn't matter. Yeah. Well,

I want to write something like I want to write

a book as well. And I just I used to try I tried

to do poems, but I just couldn't get into it.

I haven't been writing recently at all. But I

have a lot of things planned out for a book I

want to do and it has aspects from all these

different stories, but I also want to make it

more of my own because I don't want someone to

think I'm just copying everything. But a large

part of it is inspired by Dune and that whole

franchise and series. i'm just a lot of movies

with timothy chalamet i'm kind of obsessed with

him because i just love his acting style so much

um but the way i like found the story was i went

i literally searched up story generators and

i found all these cool topics and like different

um genres like fiction and science fiction and

fantasy and i kind of combined them and then

i put all the ones i thought were cool on Google

doc and just like sorted out the ones that I

didn't really like anymore and then combined

all the other ones and it helped a lot to form

something more Original I would say yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's cool. I I uh, I think you know,

I like I like storytelling a lot, you know and

Kind of coming up with a story like that, you

know, yeah and was cool about stories like Dune

and obviously is you're kind of taking something

that it doesn't you know a lot of times they

have they have modern influences and stuff like

that and historical influences right like i think

i think they're saying like somebody was saying

that star wars has like influences on certain

wars that have happened over the years you know

um yeah i could see that and i guess what's cool

about that is you know other than that you're

really taking It's a story completely from like

nowhere, you know, like you're coming completely

from a raw idea instead of going like on a biography

or the story of somebody or just some sort of

topic, you know, it's you're you're coming up

with something completely new and authentic and

kind of hoping that people will like it, which

is scary, but it's really cool, you know. Yeah.

Definitely want to do something original. I don't

I mean some remakes of like stories or movies

They're good, but most of them are just like

just awful to be honest like oh My god, I don't

know why people keep taking an old idea and making

it like into live -action or redoing it like

for the 17th time it's just I feel like Yeah,

people in that interesting need to At least look

or try to create newer ideas. I feel like that

would help a lot with everything going on in

the world. I Completely agree like like a movie

that's come out pretty recently to when this

is recording is actually I might have came out

a while ago, but like Mufasa I felt like I was

a very like I Don't think anybody was like man.

We need a movie about Mufasa's like I feel like

the story Just from the Lion King one was all

you needed You know, I swear we already had one

Like some sort of live -action line movie. I've

seen oh we did. Yeah, we had the we had the laughing

live -action. Yeah Yes, I just don't understand

why do we needed another one or even wanted to

begin with but I mean Like where do they get

the money from I was like why like this is just

like because it looks like visually it looks

good You know, yeah that sort of credit. I mean,

it does look a little weird Like it's giving

like it's giving like a reminder of like Beverly

Hills Chihuahua and like, oh my gosh, like Space

Buddies and stuff. I love those movies, but not

in like a. Yeah. How to explain it. Not like

it's an authentically good movie. Yeah. Like

they're they're kind of bad, but I love them

so much. I watched all of those. Like I was like

Spooky Buddies, like the Air Bud movies. Yeah.

The animated mouths on those dogs is awful. Like,

it's so bad. I don't know what's worse, to be

honest. Beverly Hills Chihuahua or like the Space,

like the Space Buddy, those movies. They're so,

they were such a key part of my childhood, but

they're like, I mean, they're so stupid. They

are but they're also so good. I should have a

video where I like Watch those again. It's been

so long. Yeah This has been insanely long since

I've watched those movies There's like a lot

of Beverly Hills trial movies too. There's like

I think three or four. Oh How did they receive

the funding? Like how did they do that? Well,

you know, I mean it's kind of understandable,

but it's also kind of not Same time. It's kind

of sad. It's like, I mean, think about like the

concept of the movie feels like a gold mine.

We're going to make a movies and the main characters

are puppies. That's yeah. You couldn't think

of a more corporate idea than just puppies. You

know, it's like, you know, it's the ultimate

kids movie. You know, it really is, you know.

It's funny cuz like I grew up like I always like

these Cartoon Network shows and I like I really

appreciate those a lot more now Kind of looking

back because it's like those were like authentic

stories, you know, a lot of those Yeah, they

were we're like odd but in a really good way

like So long as I'm pretty sure we the Bears

is one of the shows I thought it was we we Bears

and I was like So confused when people were calling

it something else. Is it is it we bear bears?

I don't know. I thought it was we the bear or

like I'm looking it up. Just we we bear. I don't

know. I haven't seen it. What was your favorite

Cartoon Network shows? It's we bear bears, by

the way. Sorry. Sorry, you're fine. I'm not sure.

I get all the like cartoon channels mixed up

like with Nickelodeon and Disney. There's so

many that I keep forgetting. My big ones were

like Regular Show and then like Gravity Falls

was Disney, but I love Gravity Falls. Yes. Oh

my God. I love that show. There's like Phineas

and Ferb was great. Yeah, definitely. I said

Regular Show. I said, did I say Adventure Time?

Not yet, but yeah, I agree with that. And then

I forgot the full show name, but I think it's

called the Fantastic World of Gumball. Oh, yeah,

the Amazing World of Gumball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Sorry. No, you're fine. You were basically

on it. Yeah. Great, great show. That one was

a very random show. That was the ultimate. Yeah,

I was like... Was like so confused what was happening

but like at the same time it was like funny so

You know the mall in that show you can go to

that mall Really? Yeah, it's not like like the

gumball like the amazing word gumball like mall

Yeah, it's just a mall, but you can go to where

they they took that footage of the mall. Oh,

yeah It's yeah in Atlanta. I was thrifting a

few weekends ago and There was I think it was

I saw this big building. I think it was the lab

from stranger things It's just so cool to actually

see that. Oh, yeah. Wait you get that in Atlanta

Yeah, I don't know if it's like an actual like

being run to buy something building But there's

also a mall that I think it was in season two

or three that they shot in Think you can go there,

but I think there's another mall they filmed

in or used and I think it was closed down Hmm.

I'm not sure Speaking of Speaking of movies and

like Seeing like your hometown or whatever in

it the founder The movie about McDonald's like

the guy who there's a lot of clips from that

shot in the downtown, this downtown that's like

fairly close to me. Yeah. I don't think I've

seen that. It's a good movie. You should watch

it. Yeah. You know, if you want to see how McDonald's

is created. It's kind of sad also, but. Oh, yes.

McDonald's is a sad story. OK. I would never

have thought of that. No, yeah, you know, it's

it's brutal. OK, when you're eating your Big

Mac, just certain level of sadness just rushes

over. Here's a kind of another random question.

What's a piece of media or art that you unapologetically

enjoy that might shock others, AKA guilty pleasure?

So I had somebody crap. What do they say? I don't

know what they said, but basically something

that You might quote -unquote be feel guilty

about you don't actually have to feel guilty

about it. Yeah have to be something really weird,

but Yeah There I think it was in Japan is this

artwork of this robot and he's like scooping

up a red liquid. I feel like it's very Cliche

to like that piece, but I just it just makes

me feel so sad because he eventually like slows

down over time And just like he barely scoops

up the liquid and it's just it looks so sad But

I just tell myself that he's a robot cuz like

I mean he is so yeah But another like guilty

pleasure like in the film wise I would say is

like Childhood movies like they're just really

comfort to me like the Barbie movies. They're

so bright and kind of painful to watch because

of the colors and yeah bad animation but it's

just like comforting and fun to watch so the

barbie movies yeah okay yeah i almost have all

of them so really like on dvd yeah yeah wow that's

retro dvd man yeah i have a whole um closet full

of movies wow okay barbie that's a new one you

know Yeah. I had some dudes on here say, uh,

say, uh, dress to impress. I love dress to impress.

Okay. Maybe it's a lot more popular than I thought

it was. Yeah. There's been a lot of VTubers playing.

They had an idea of starting a, I don't know

if this was, they had an idea of starting like

a tournament where basically you'd make money

off of, like you can make money off of. Yeah.

Probably a joking. Yeah, I say idea probably

more on the I don't know if they're actually

pioneering this but Yeah, I feel like honestly,

I'd be good at that because I've been I've been

playing non -stop. So Five years from now. You're

a professional dressing and press player Yeah,

we got eSports leagues for it That would be a

golden age in roblox gaming truly. Yeah, I just

I keep thinking of the older Roblox games, like

I think it was called Prison Break and of course,

the zombie attack game or just stuff like that.

It's just so nostalgic to me. Yes, those were

like there was I played I played Natural Disaster

was a big one I played. Yes, I played the lot

of the football games because I love football

growing up. Yeah, like I I love roblox I'll play

roblox every now and then I'm like, you know

There's some crap. I'm playing a lot recently

Look, there's some crap on roblox. We all acknowledge

that there's a lot of yeah, but there's some

gems. Okay, you know My you know, I really should

start saying this was my guilty pleasure one

time me and my buddies were on call and I was

Really bored because they didn't have the game

that they were playing and so I went on roblox

And I found the the the the best truly probably

the best roblox game fairy fairy tycoon and I

grinded on that game for two hours and Maxed

out the game So yeah, sometimes I'll play like

a stupid tycoon game There's so they're all the

exact same, but they're so good They are. They're

just classic. Yeah, truly, truly. My next my

next question would be for you is this is kind

of this can kind of be a common question for

a lot of artists. But what are some difficulties

you have run into with art? Definitely some parts

of making the website work kind of hard because

the whole like mobile. Appearance of it was just

like like I had finally finished the computer

version I was so proud of myself and then I realized

that and I was like, oh my goodness. Oh, yeah

but more like difficulties speaking would be

art block like just not having the motivation

to draw and knowing what you want to draw or

like not knowing but having motivation like it's

basically like You want to get that energy out,

but you can't And then sometimes you don't have

any energy at all. So I think that's definitely

a part of it. I've seen a lot of people online

say that making art every day or at least drawing

something for five minutes helps. And honestly,

I don't draw every day, but I've been getting

more into it recently because I just came out

of a little art block stump. But I think I'm

doing pretty good now. I've been drawing every

day for like a week or two now. That's really

good. If you need help getting motivation, then

hopefully my community can help you. Yeah, I

would agree with all of that. I was thinking

about kind of like you said, like art block and

kind of I guess the one thing with art and kind

of pursuing it is look, money is a very persuasive

thing. Money's a good motivator. And when you're

doing something and you're putting in a lot of

effort, kind of like you would a job. Not saying,

you know, being a content creator is like a job,

like, you know. But for some people it is. And

it does sometimes require a solid amount of time

to set aside to do it. And sometimes when you're

not making money from it can be a bit. It can

be harder to do when yeah, there's not a direct

incentive, you know, but I think you kind of

got to find you got to find your reason to do

it and Always having a reason to do it is good.

Like you always have to as long as you enjoy

it. That's what's good, you know Yeah, I agree

with that and if maybe you get like one good

interaction with somebody Revolving your art

and it just makes your day, right? Yeah, I was

getting my hair done a few weeks ago and I was

drawing in the middle of the appointment and

then my hairstylist all of a sudden wanted to

commission me and it just made me so happy because

I haven't had many commissions. So yeah, that's

really good. I'm shocked you haven't had many

commissions because you just have really good

art. But yeah, maybe maybe that's something that

you know, maybe that's something that Really

think it's I really think a big part of it is

just community having people who are going to

Because I think you know getting valuable fans

and people are gonna support you like directly

is really big and Yeah, I don't have any problems

supporting people who I feel like do good stuff,

you know, I have no problem with it You know,

I can't necessarily dedicate that, you know,

I'm gonna be on every post and be like this is

fantastic You know, liking it, sharing it, texted

a thousand friends, you know, like, but, you

know, and I can't necessarily, you know, say

this to every single person on the podcast. I'm

going to invest all of my money in everything

they have, you know. But yeah, I get that. But,

you know, just kind of grouping together and

group supporting each other. That's what's really

cool about artists. And I'm like, if you can

be an artist and get into that niche. and meet

artists, then I just see people's accounts grow

huge because of it, you know? Because you'll

scroll through their following and it's just

artists. Yeah, I love that. I've been trying

to follow more artists on my art account. Because

I think a sense of community definitely does

help. It's really exciting to be able to look

at other people's stuff too. Yeah, it's kind

of... You kind of get to... See what they do

see what they're doing that is doing well and

try to replicate that and also give advice other

people who are Maybe trying to learn a different

skill Yeah, you know you can you could that's

where you can gain a lot from it, you know Yeah,

it definitely does help Well, I guess my last

question would be as we're reaching our final

few minutes What would a what would a piece of

advice would give to people in your similar situation?

Whether that be to artists to just people creating

content online I would say And regarding art

block try to create when you can even if it's

just something little and have like some sort

of like Pinterest board or collection of pictures

to inspire you of things that you want to make

or replicate. I feel like just having something

ready that you want to see and draw or create

is very helpful. So, yeah. Absolutely. And well,

I think that's really good then. I think that's

I think it's a really good thing to say, especially

for I think art block is a you know, it's more

credited towards artist, like people drawing,

I would say it's a pretty universal thing of

people who are creative minded, just not having

a lack of new ideas coming to you. And I totally

get that. Well, I want to thank everybody for

listening to the podcast. I want to thank you

as well for being on the podcast. This has been

a very good episode. And if you would like to

find some of Vivy Joyce's links, they will be

in the description of this video or in the description

of this episode, whether you're listening to

this on podcast, on YouTube, definitely go check

those things out and definitely go buy some art.

Go get something commissioned. I'm sure that

would be much appreciated. Is there anything

else you would like to say? Um, no. All right.

Well, thank you listeners again. And you guys

have a great rest of your day. Bye bye.